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The Value Based Care Advisory (VBCA) Podcast is a solution-focused platform dedicated to advancing the transformation of healthcare through value-based care (VBC) models. Our mission is to break down complex healthcare topics into accessible, actionable insights for leaders, entrepreneurs, engaged consumers, and anyone passionate about meaningful change in healthcare. By challenging the healthcare industrial complex, we provide tools, strategies, and expert perspectives that empower our listeners to navigate and accelerate the shift toward better outcomes, lower costs, and improved patient experiences.

Each episode delivers thought-provoking discussions and practical advice from industry experts, spotlighting innovative approaches to healthcare reform and highlighting voices that are often overlooked in traditional dialogues. Whether you're a healthcare executive, provider, payer, policy influencer, entrepreneur, or informed patient, we aim to inspire new ideas and support you in driving transformation in the healthcare space.

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March 17, 2025

Doulas and Value-Based Maternity Care: Driving Cost Reduction and Improved Outcomes

Doulas and Value-Based Maternity Care: Driving Cost Reduction and Improved Outcomes
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Season 2 Behavioral Health Value-Based Care Maternity Mental Health

This conversation explores the historical context of childbirth, the current state of maternal mortality in the U.S., and the emerging role of doulas in modern maternity care. It highlights the paradox of high maternal mortality rates despite advanced medical technology and discusses how doulas can improve outcomes and reduce costs in the healthcare system.

Tips are provided to strategically leveraging the doula opportunity in risk-based contracting.

Takeaways:

  • The integration of doulas into maternity care significantly reduces unnecessary interventions and enhances outcomes.
  • Evidence demonstrates that doulas can lower postpartum depression rates, benefiting both mothers and healthcare systems.
  • Doulas are increasingly recognized as a strategic component in modern maternity care, facilitating cost savings.

Companies mentioned in this episode:

  • Blue Shield Blue Cross

Chapters

00:00 - The History of Childbirth

00:39 - Modern Maternal Mortality Paradox

01:31 - The Doula Solution

02:31 - Evidence and Impact of Doulas

06:16 - Financial Benefits of Doula Programs

07:04 - Conclusion and Call to Action

Transcript
Speaker A00:00:00

For most of human history, birth wasn't a medical procedure.

Speaker A00:00:04

It was a community event.

Speaker A00:00:06

In ancient Egypt, birthing women were attended by midwives and female relatives, offering hands on support and herbal remedies, ensuring that pregnancy was managed with care rather than intervention.

Speaker A00:00:18

In medieval Europe, childbirth took place in a home where experienced wise women, early doulas, in a sense predicted, provided emotional and physical support.

Speaker A00:00:28

But here's the catch.

Speaker A00:00:29

If complications arose, there were no hospitals, no formal medical safety net.

Speaker A00:00:35

Maternal and infant mortality were staggeringly high.

Speaker A00:00:39

Fast forward to today and you may assume we've left that behind.

Speaker A00:00:43

But in the United States, a country that spends more on healthcare than any other nation, maternal mortality rates remain among the worst in the developed world.

Speaker A00:00:54

It's a paradox.

Speaker A00:00:55

We have the technology, the hospitals, the expertise.

Speaker A00:01:00

But our system is failing mothers.

Speaker A00:01:02

The experience of giving birth in America still carries the same risks of neglect and preventable complications that plagued medieval Europe.

Speaker A00:01:12

One reason over medicalization, where labor and birth are treated as emergencies rather than natural physiological processes.

Speaker A00:01:23

Another, financial structures that incentivize costly interventions rather than continuous patient centered support.

Speaker A00:01:31

Which brings us to today's conversation.

Speaker A00:01:34

There's a solution, a model that restores the human centered care that existed for millennia while aligning perfectly with modern value based care.

Speaker A00:01:43

Healthcare economics what's the solution?

Speaker A00:01:47

Doulas.

Speaker A00:01:49

They're not just providing emotional support for mothers.

Speaker A00:01:53

They're reducing unnecessary C sections, improving postpartum mental health, and even saving hospitals money.

Speaker A00:02:01

A concept that is gaining traction across Medicaid, commercial and employer sponsored health plans.

Speaker A00:02:07

But how exactly do doulas fit into the business of healthcare?

Speaker A00:02:11

And what does the data say about their financial impact?

Speaker A00:02:15

Well, I'm your host, Alex Yarijanian, and in today's episode of the VBCA podcast, we're going to explore the evidence, the economics and the policy shifts that are making doulas a key part of modern maternity care.

Speaker A00:02:31

Let's start with a sobering reality.

Speaker A00:02:33

In the United States, maternal mortality rates are the highest among developed nations.

Speaker A00:02:40

And we're not just talking about statistics.

Speaker A00:02:43

These are mothers, daughters, sisters, partners whose lives are at risk during pregnancy and childbirth.

Speaker A00:02:50

The financial burden is staggering too.

Speaker A00:02:53

Maternity costs.

Speaker A00:02:55

So maternity care costs the United States over 50 billion annually.

Speaker A00:03:00

That's with a B.

Speaker A00:03:01

Yet outcomes continue to lag behind.

Speaker A00:03:04

For hospitals operating under capitated payment models, the challenge is even more acute.

Speaker A00:03:10

Every preventable C section adds costs, cutting into fixed budgets.

Speaker A00:03:14

Postpartum depression and complications drive up readmissions and emergency room visits.

Speaker A00:03:20

And for hospitals with high risk maternity populations, the financial strain is even greater.

Speaker A00:03:26

The question is, how do we fix it?

Speaker A00:03:29

One answer, increasingly backed by clinical evidence and financial modeling, is doula integration.

Speaker A00:03:36

Now, doulas aren't new.

Speaker A00:03:38

They've been around for centuries, providing continuous physical, emotional and informational support during pregnancy, labor and postpartum recovery.

Speaker A00:03:48

What is new is the data.

Speaker A00:03:51

The data showing their measurable impact, not just on health outcomes and hospital finances.

Speaker A00:03:57

Take this 52.9% reduction in C sections at a hospital after integrating doula care into a maternity care team 57.5% lower odds of postpartum depression and anxiety among mothers who had doula support 64.7% decrease in postpartum mental health diagnoses for Medicaid covered births when doulas were involved.

Speaker A00:04:26

That's almost 65% decrease in postpartum mental health diagnosis for Medicaid covered births.

Speaker A00:04:34

Incredible.

Speaker A00:04:35

For hospitals and insurers working under capitated contracts, this is a no brainer.

Speaker A00:04:41

This is significant.

Speaker A00:04:42

Every avoided surgical birth, every reduced hospital stay, every prevented NICU admission translates to millions of dollars in savings.

Speaker A00:04:55

And the data keeps adding up.

Speaker A00:04:57

A Blue Shield Blue Cross study analyzing over 340,000 maternal claims found that doulas had the greatest impact on high risk pregnancies, particularly again among Medicaid beneficiaries and marginalized communities.

Speaker A00:05:18

The Takeaway Doulas are not a luxury.

Speaker A00:05:21

They are a cost saving strategy.

Speaker A00:05:24

Hospitals and policymakers are taking notice.

Speaker A00:05:28

Right now, Medicaid programs in 11 states plus Washington, D.C.

Speaker A00:05:32

cover doula services, and at least eight more states are working to expand reimbursement programs.

Speaker A00:05:39

Federal agencies like CMS are actively encouraging doula integration as part of their prenatal workforce expansion efforts.

Speaker A00:05:47

And it's not just Medicaid.

Speaker A00:05:49

Some commercial insurers and employer sponsored plans are launching pilot programs to offer doula benefits.

Speaker A00:05:57

Hospitals incapitated maternity contracts are partnering with community based doula programs, and managed care organizations are including doulas as part of value added maternity care benefits.

Speaker A00:06:09

In other words, doula integration isn't just good policy, it's good business.

Speaker A00:06:14

It's smart business.

Speaker A00:06:16

So how does it work?

Speaker A00:06:17

How do hospitals actually profit from doula programs?

Speaker A00:06:21

Here's fewer C sections, lower surgical costs, higher margins, incapitated models, reduced ER visits and postpartum readmissions.

Speaker A00:06:33

You have less financial strain on fixed budgets.

Speaker A00:06:37

So beyond direct costs, there's an opportunity for gain sharing arrangements where hospitals earn financial incentives from payers based on successful maternity care performance.

Speaker A00:06:48

Readmissions, especially preventable ones, are a substantial cost factor for hospitals, particularly in capitated arrangements.

Speaker A00:06:56

Doulas directly impact these avoidable costs by improving birth outcomes and postpartum recovery.

Speaker A00:07:02

So what's next?

Speaker A00:07:04

If you're a hospital executive, a payer or policymaker, here's what you should be doing right now.

Speaker A00:07:11

Evaluate Medicaid reimbursement opportunities for doulas in your state.

Speaker A00:07:15

Partner with community based doula organizations to extend maternity care beyond the hospital.

Speaker A00:07:21

Integrate doula supported models into managed care and capitated contracts.

Speaker A00:07:27

Negotiate gain sharing agreements with payers that incentivize lower C section rates and better birth outcomes.

Speaker A00:07:35

But the reality is, hospitals that embrace value based maternity care will be the ones that thrive.

Speaker A00:07:42

That's it for today's episode of the Value Based Care Advisory Podcast.

Speaker A00:07:46

If you found this conversation insightful, take a moment to subscribe, share and leave a review.

Speaker A00:07:52

I'm Alex Yarijanian and I'll see you next time as we continue to explore innovative solutions in value based healthcare.

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